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Belgian-born

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There appears to be a huge dispute on whether to include "Belgian-born" in the lead of the article. Per WP:BRD, I am requesting all parties involved in this dispute to discuss here regarding the matter. Additionally, in my eyes, how is this going to affect the associated note? Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 20:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

She was born in Belgium, thus “Belgian-born” seems completely appropriate. It’s indicating the country of her birth, not her nationality. “Belgian-born” is in no way indicating that she is Belgian. If we meant that, we would just say Belgian. To simply list her as British seems less accurate. Rcarter555 (talk) 13:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She was not born Belgian. She was born British in Belgium. "Belgian-born" does imply that she was born with Belgian nationality. She was not; she was never entitled to it. Somebody suggested that we say "Belgium-born", but most of us thought that this was unnecessary. LynwoodF (talk) 08:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was a discussion about this some time ago and the present wording was agreed, given that there is an explanation of her parentage in the note. LynwoodF (talk) 08:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let it be known Lynwood is referring to the discussion now archived at Talk:Audrey Hepburn/Archive 3#Birthplace. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 15:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This was not actually the earliest discussion on the matter. I was involved in this one in order to keep things as they had been. It seems to me that the note deals adequately with the complexities of her parentage and nationality. I researched the Belgian and Dutch nationality laws and found that she was entitled only to British nationality, although she no doubt acquired American and then Italian nationality from her husbands. She said that she felt half-Dutch, because of her mother's nationality, but I don't think she ever felt Belgian, despite having been born in Belgium. LynwoodF (talk) 09:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]